Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby IWant2Believe on 05 Nov 2008 19:00

Hey, this is my thread! How dare you hijack it with political talk!

That our nation has reversed course from eight years of incompetence and thuggery is no reason to start expressing political opinions.
Yeah, but is it worse than my HVX200?
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby netrate on 11 Nov 2008 12:40

How much does the lens size vary - because the Lytecap does allow for a little play when put on the lens...
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby ralph-FR on 11 Nov 2008 12:48

netrate wrote:How much does the lens size vary - because the Lytecap does allow for a little play when put on the lens...


Because there are so many different "outer diameters/shapes" for so many different SLR lenses, your best bet is either to make it fit inside the threading which is standard across lenses (but you'll need to provide step up/down adapters for all the common threadings, like 58mm, 72, 77, 82...)
Or to make it flat so it can hover onto any lens barrel. But with little bumps for the various diameters so it can easily be positionned time after time in a repeatable way.
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby netrate on 15 Nov 2008 16:11

* inside the threading is going to be challenging and from the past with the HV20, most people don't want a screw in type device, they want to pop it on and off, so that is what I am still trying to get a handle on.
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby ralph-FR on 15 Nov 2008 16:25

netrate wrote:from the past with the HV20, most people don't want a screw in type device


You seem to forget that the HV20 has a fixed lens. Not ONE person here has only one lens in his arsenal (I have 9).
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby tobias on 15 Nov 2008 23:58

As I understand it we will not be able to choose the ISO, but we can lock it down at a certain value picked by the camera, by using the * button. I believe the least comical way to get "manual" exposure will be to use an all manual prime. i.e zeiss, leica R or nikon. And then open the aperture untill you get the desired ISO, then lock it and stop it down.

Another option would be to use canon lenses and a set of vari NDs

http://www.singh-ray.com/varind.html

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and then turn it up and down while you fumble around with the exposure compensation hoping for a good ISO/Shutter/aperture combination to lock down. :idea:

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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby ralph-FR on 16 Nov 2008 00:06

tobias wrote:And then open the aperture untill you get the desired ISO, then lock it and stop it down.

You forgot the shutter speed, it's part of the "problem". Hence the desire to have a repeatable amount of light which the user would know that it gives a certain combination of ISO and shutter (aperture is a non-issue, just "ralph" the lens or use a manual one)
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby tobias on 16 Nov 2008 01:02

ralph-FR wrote:
tobias wrote:And then open the aperture untill you get the desired ISO, then lock it and stop it down.

You forgot the shutter speed, it's part of the "problem". Hence the desire to have a repeatable amount of light which the user would know that it gives a certain combination of ISO and shutter (aperture is a non-issue, just "ralph" the lens or use a manual one)


Ok now I get it... they really gave this a lot of thought at the CANON r n´d... they had a whole department making sure that this camera doesn t become too good"

but if its designet that way, ISO/shutter are probably gonna move in a specific repeatable pattern from low to high. iso/shutter will move opposite of eachother, making it impossible to get low iso with slow shutter.
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby tobias on 16 Nov 2008 01:07

sorry, what does it mean to "ralph" a lense
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Re: Least comical workaround to get "manual" exposure?

Postby Lee Wilson on 16 Nov 2008 01:23

tobias wrote: . . . . . and then turn it up and down while you fumble around with the exposure compensation hoping for a good ISO/Shutter/aperture combination to lock down. :idea:



How would you know you have got a good ISO/Shutter/aperture combination to lock down ?

I don't think the information is displayed on the LCD.
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